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Title: GNC Badges
Post by: myk1066 on November 15, 2012, 12:22:23 AM
What is the earliest dated GNC badge any of you badge collectors have?  I believe I may have, en route in the post, one dated 1921 with a low registration number for the finding:


E.M.FALKINGHAM S.R.N.566, R.F.N.18. 28.10.21

If it is as stated then the SRN No is the lowest I have in my collection & the RFN No is also the lowest one in my collection & the lowest one I have seen.

Regards
Myk1066
Title: Re: GNC Badges
Post by: wilfb on November 15, 2012, 03:39:57 PM
Hi Myke1066.

I don't believe that I have any GNC badges before 1922 - though I believe that Fran Biley may have some very early GNC badges.

Any chance of a photograph of the reverse when you get it?

I will check our site badges to see what we have.

Will.

Ps. 'The register opened on 30th September 1921. The first state registration badge was issued to Ethel Gordon Bedford-Fenwick (nee Manson) who was registered as SRN (State Registered Nurse) on 30th September 1921. The registration number was '1'. The final resting place of this badge is unknown.' *From our Son article on GNC badges.
Title: Re: GNC Badges
Post by: barrysutton on November 23, 2012, 08:51:35 AM
With regards numbered and dated badges I would appear to have some oddities,
1). M.Fellows S.R.N. 3946  19.5.22 (M stands for Myra, one of my great aunts),

2). W. Fish S.R.N. 53 15.6.23, this has a lapel finding,

3). E. Whiitefield R.F.N. 808 20.7.23.
Title: Re: GNC Badges
Post by: barrysutton on November 23, 2012, 10:53:45 AM
Also does anyone know when each of the various registers where opened, i.e. R.S.C.N., R.M.N., R.N.M.D., R.N.M.S., S.E.A.N. & S.E.N.?

I assume that the registers for the S.R.N. & R.F.N. were both opened in 1921?
Title: Re: GNC Badges
Post by: nursesue on November 24, 2012, 01:57:29 PM
i am still working on the dates of RFNS, however, I do have the date of December 31st  1967 as the day that the fever regisiter closed.
In December 1960 the first reading of a Bill whose aim was to  alter the name of SEANs to SEN.
The Enrolled nurse rules came into opertion in 1961 after consolidating all the previous Rolls. I quote from my fave source " There was much controversy in the profession over the content of the pupil nurses' practical training. Some felt it was too broad and included procedures which ought to be the province of the SRN- eg the administration of oxygen" The is in 1946 when the GNC when reviewing SEN training We have come such a long way since then
As for the England and Wales GNC badge - i have found the date of February 1921 when it was decided to use the Seal of the GNC as a badge
( described as a medallion in my book) the accepted abbreviations of SRN, RMN,RNMD, RSCN AND RFN was decided in 1923 after the Admiralty refused permission to use the initials "RN" as the official abbreviation of "Registered Nurse"
Title: Re: GNC Badges
Post by: myk1066 on November 24, 2012, 10:37:05 PM
Hi Sue
What is your source pray tell
Mike
Title: Re: GNC Badges
Post by: nursesue on November 25, 2012, 08:37:39 AM
a  history of the General Nursing Council for England and Wales 1919-69 by Eve D Bendall and Elizabeth Raybould. I found a cheap ex library copy and its a finding read and source of info
sue
Title: Re: GNC Badges
Post by: myk1066 on November 25, 2012, 08:43:43 AM
Cheers for that Sue
::)
Title: Re: GNC Badges
Post by: Sarah Rogers on November 29, 2012, 04:45:14 PM
Along the theme of GNc badges, does any one know which year please that GNc badges were awarded with numbers and not names? thanks, Lizzie
Title: Re: GNC Badges
Post by: myk1066 on November 29, 2012, 10:53:33 PM
I have an RNMS named & dated 01/04/1980 & an SRN named & dated 1978.  I also have some numbered but not named with higher numbers which I suspect are from the late 70's & early 80's.
Myk1066
Title: Re: GNC Badges
Post by: Sarah Rogers on November 30, 2012, 09:12:08 AM
Thanks, I bought a group from an antiques guy and suspect that they aren't a group... , but as GNC not named i shall have to work a bit harder   to find out either way.
thanks, lizzie
Title: Re: GNC Badges
Post by: nursesue on November 30, 2012, 12:51:21 PM
I qulaified March 1983 my (now lost) badge had registration number and date but was un-named
Title: Re: GNC Badges
Post by: Sarah Rogers on November 30, 2012, 02:48:52 PM
Hi, the badge in question, has no name, or date!..just SRN, and a number, 474xxx, and was with 2 scottish badges, which are bothe the same name, a central miwives board and east fife...both for the early 70's. (72/74)...so really dont think that its the same person...but want to find out, jsut strange that it has no year onit  either.
many thanks for all the tips... ive re-read wills informative article on them also.
Title: Re: GNC Badges
Post by: wilfb on November 30, 2012, 04:43:04 PM
Hi.

Yes, the badge article can be a help but there is much more to come which is not yet on-line. GNC reverse sides for example, differ widely and that perenial problem of badge numbering... Originally intended to make impersonation of a nurse more difficult -  made badge identification a problem. Whether it stopped people impersonating nurses? I am not at all sure. But we will crack the numbers in a little while I am sure.

http://www.schoolsofnursing.co.uk/Collections1/GNCEWBadges.htm

Will.
Title: Re: GNC Badges
Post by: Sarah Rogers on November 30, 2012, 07:15:18 PM
Thanks all, does any  one know if you can search the GNC registers at Kew by number only?...(they will order them into the British Museum in London but only up to the 1960's issues though i think)
thansk, Lizzie
Title: Re: GNC Badges
Post by: wilfb on November 30, 2012, 08:54:29 PM
Hi Lizzie.

You are a mind-reader - or should I ask if you are a mind reader?!  I do not know the answer right now - exactly the problem I (and I suspect several others) I am working on.  I will share any information I obtain as soon as I know it to be valid - standardized; reliable; and valid that is. No point otherwise...

Perhaps someone else can help with the puzzel too....

Will.
Title: Re: GNC Badges
Post by: Sarah Rogers on November 30, 2012, 09:05:51 PM
Hi Will..i will wait, having read the blurb at Kew/on their site about nursing records i supect that some records(GNC)are still not open until next year..ie the 30 year rule..... Mind reading , sadly no...or perhaps not sadly.. a bit like crystal ball gazing , i am  not sure if id have wanted to know about everything that has/is about to happen.......
Heres to solving the conumdrum..... is there any one on this forum who worked for the GNC?
Lizzie